 | pete37921x
|  Posted 12/31/2016 19:18 (#5735193 - in reply to #5735169)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | NE SD | for an ag company or coop ? yes just another grain hauler, not really most pay pretty crappy | | | | |
| | olwhda
| Posted 12/31/2016 19:36 (#5735222 - in reply to #5735169)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Liberty, MO | When you have other truckers that will haul for .25 cents 100 miles. What do you think? The previous month's contract paid .35 cents @ bu, and nobody got rich there. The grain buyer-dispatcher that I haul a lot for called it a 1 way haul rate, esp for trucks passing through the country needing a load to get them to the big city. 3 yrs ago that run paid 38-40 cents @ bu.
I'm old enough (74) that I try to stay within 100-130 miles of home, and if I don't like the rate, I'll sit on my butt till something else comes my way. Hauling for individuals without trucks or don't want to drive in the city or set in a line for 3-5 hrs to get unloaded, have I said enough. I really feel sorry for hired drivers, setting line, no money made there.
Forgot to mention I farm approx 500 acres corn and soybeans, so I needed a hopper trailer, just run a little extra to help neighbors empty the bins during the winter Edit;; we get paid a whole dime just hauling 6-8 miles within the city, all LEGAL LOADS, if you like to run around with the 2 mile long trains blocking the most direct crossings, and the receiver quits at 1:00 , so day is shot. Might get 4-5 loads @ day. Maybe 2 days a week. Edited by olwhda 12/31/2016 22:32 | | | | |
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| | gavogel
| Posted 12/31/2016 19:48 (#5735251 - in reply to #5735081)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Marion,ks | X2 on what everybody else said . Just drive for somebody else . | | | | |
| | thorfarms
| Posted 1/1/2017 14:29 (#5736582 - in reply to #5736490)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Lincoln, North Dakota | jd4930 - 1/1/2017 13:34 I have never met Hugh or know anything about him but I do always read his posts and I would have to say it's some pretty knowledgeable bs as you call it, I respect his knowledge and what he contributes here, had always seemed very knowledgeable and helpful to me........ +1 | | | | |
| | jd4930
| Posted 1/1/2017 14:36 (#5736590 - in reply to #5736582)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Central ND | Well that's interesting, luvfarming deleted his posts......btw, I was replying to him not you combine jockey Edited by jd4930 1/1/2017 14:37 | | | | |
| | a4t-1600
| Posted 12/31/2016 22:14 (#5735483 - in reply to #5735425)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Dearfield Co. | Define making money --------------a walmart greeter makes money and yes there is some to be made hauling grain same as being a walmart greeter. That amount long term remains to be seen. Have you ever met a trucker who long term does well or who is considered wealthy? I bet a kubota tractor with a rototiller and other attachments would clear as much as hauling grain. Gross would be way less but pocket money would be better. A friend of mine gave up hauling grain and with a loan from his brother bought a used skid steer and trailer, He grossed just as much and didn't have near the expense No way would I encourage a man who is retirement age to go into debt to haul grain. Even if he had the cash salted away I think there would be better uses for it without the stress and risk | | | | |
| | a4t-1600
| Posted 1/1/2017 00:55 (#5735626 - in reply to #5735624)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Dearfield Co. | Ohh so you really dont know the expenses of commercial trucking then? It was shiny for the wife--------you said she was your cute baby maker so someone in your area already has the jealousy | | | | |
| | hillfarmer
| Posted 1/1/2017 17:26 (#5736869 - in reply to #5735950)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | |  | Illinois Steve - 1/1/2017 10:28 Did you swear off punctuation for the new year? Lol! So should we do a survey, if there is perfect punctuation, in the above statement | | | | |
| | DB Tracks
| Posted 12/31/2016 22:43 (#5735513 - in reply to #5735081)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Camp Douglas Wi. 40miles nw of wi. dells | We have 3 semis with hopper bottoms to get through harvest, truckers can name there price during harvest, the rest of the year we still haul our own crops to end users only because we have the trucks setting in the yard, after wages and fuel there's few crumbs left for truck maintance. Sometimes think I would be better off hiring it done and leave our trucks parked. Dan | | | | |
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| | oldbones
| Posted 1/1/2017 10:04 (#5736035 - in reply to #5735534)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | 
Floyd County, Iowa | runningbehind - 12/31/2016 23:02 You could probably make decent money worki g for different guys at differe t times. Haul this guys grain for three weeks, help that guy with springs work. Drive for a fertizer delivery at surge time. Ect. I know some local guys that just dont want to do certain things anymore like haul their own grain, but have the semi. And pay very well for someone to work for a short while Agree with this. I have a Class A CDL, w/hazmat. I work half time (a little more than that, actually) at a co-op driving trucks- fertilizer in spring, post spray, re-stocking dry fert, hauling grain, and some bulk feed ingredients. I can take the time I need when I need it for my own farming.
Love it. Away from people most of the time (I spent 40 years in direct contact with customers and the public- too much), and set my hours, within reason
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In the off season I get calls all the time from independent truck owners and farmers asking if I can haul for them. Some I do, some I don't.
Around here, if you have a CDL and are reliable, you're "golden", as one farmer put it.
If it were me, I'd just drive for someone else. My thinking is that, yes, there are a lot of guys owning hoppers and hauling, but the question I wonder is, are they continuing because they're raking in the cash?
Or are they continuing because now they bought a truck, and now they have to make truck payments and can't just walk away? | | | | |
| | emtbd1979
| Posted 1/1/2017 10:12 (#5736059 - in reply to #5736035)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | 
west central illinois | oldbones - 1/1/2017 09:04 runningbehind - 12/31/2016 23:02 You could probably make decent money worki g for different guys at differe t times. Haul this guys grain for three weeks, help that guy with springs work. Drive for a fertizer delivery at surge time. Ect. I know some local guys that just dont want to do certain things anymore like haul their own grain, but have the semi. And pay very well for someone to work for a short while Agree with this. I have a Class A CDL, w/hazmat. I work half time (a little more than that, actually) at a co-op driving trucks- fertilizer in spring, post spray, re-stocking dry fert, hauling grain, and some bulk feed ingredients. I can take the time I need when I need it for my own farming.
Love it. Away from people most of the time (I spent 40 years in direct contact with customers and the public- too much), and set my hours, within reason
.
In the off season I get calls all the time from independent truck owners and farmers asking if I can haul for them. Some I do, some I don't.
Around here, if you have a CDL and are reliable, you're "golden", as one farmer put it.
If it were me, I'd just drive for someone else. My thinking is that, yes, there are a lot of guys owning hoppers and hauling, but the question I wonder is, are they continuing because they're raking in the cash?
Or are they continuing because now they bought a truck, and now they have to make truck payments and can't just walk away? most of those guys making money have a long term relationship with the people they haul for. In order to get those people you have to cut the rate. Hence no money to be made. The other option is to find one of those guys that are well established and ask if you bought a truck if you could haul under them to help them out. That is the only time I pull my dump for hire. I have a relationship with 3 guys I help when they need help. | | | | |
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| | bad farmer
| Posted 1/1/2017 08:03 (#5735779 - in reply to #5735081)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | no welfare payments on this farm!!!!!!!! | read a few posts and they sound pretty discouraging, i am sure you are old and smart enough to know that those who are not making money are not making it for a reason, yes they use ag talk as a place to make excuses for them not making money. fact is during the last 4 years there is only one sector of the economy which had a pay increase and that is trucking. yes truckers earned a extra 8% in income while every other sector was stangnant. with that being said ask yourself who you want to be and then listen to people who follow that goal. yes you can make good mney with trucking but you obviously cant do it the way these guys loosing money think you can. i would read their posts and figure out what not to and then what you will have to do and then askyourself if that is what you want to do. for instance the distance or theovernights ect. simple thing to ask yourself is do you want to be a truck driver or a manager? if you think the day is over when you park the truck, good luck with making money at that, if you think your most profitable hour is driving then good luck with that. trucks are truck, high payload, good fuel milage, and low repairs/cost of ownership equals profit with trucking but only if you have the loads to make it work. most of hte people you work with want you to make money, avoid those whodonot. if somone else can make a 35 cent load work good dont cuss them, figure out how to make it work. good luck with your venture, we need retired people like you to keep working to make up for the millenals that dont seem to know what work is | | | | |
| | NEMOScott
| Posted 1/1/2017 09:59 (#5736013 - in reply to #5735081)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Callao, Missouri | You might consider spending a little more to get something that most in the area don't have, like a belt trailer or detach. I've got a company hauling corn for me and back hauling lime right now. My truck has been parked because they can be running loaded both ways. I think the paperwork for a semi is only going to get worse, so if you dislike it now....you'll hate it in 10 years. I've also seen guys take a beating by owning only one truck, especially a truck with current emissions equipment. The truck sits in the shop with a huge bill and the business is lost in the meantime...almost gotta have an old cabover parked behind the shed for backup. Edited by NEMOScott 1/1/2017 10:00 | | | | |
| | twraska
| Posted 1/1/2017 11:13 (#5736202 - in reply to #5735081)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Wallis, TX | Lots of good advice in the above posts, but what wasn't talked about too much was the price for hauling in your area. IDK what the rates are in IN but here in SE Texas, you can get good money in season. Say $.85 cwt for a 70 mile haul, roughly $7 a loaded mile, (more if you do like most and 'load the wagon'), normally get two loads a day. Short hauls are $.35 cwt with some as high as $20 a loaded mile, most are over $10. Out of season, you'll be lucky get $4.00 a loaded mile and it won't be steady work at that rate. Before you come down here for a 3 or 4 week season be sure to add in your living costs and down time due to weather. Good luck on your choice. | | | | |
| | jedstivers
| Posted 1/1/2017 12:19 (#5736327 - in reply to #5736202)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | 
Marianna Arkansas | twraska - 1/1/2017 10:13 Lots of good advice in the above posts, but what wasn't talked about too much was the price for hauling in your area. IDK what the rates are in IN but here in SE Texas, you can get good money in season. Say $.85 cwt for a 70 mile haul, roughly $7 a loaded mile, (more if you do like most and 'load the wagon'), normally get two loads a day. Short hauls are $.35 cwt with some as high as $20 a loaded mile, most are over $10. Out of season, you'll be lucky get $4.00 a loaded mile and it won't be steady work at that rate. Before you come down here for a 3 or 4 week season be sure to add in your living costs and down time due to weather. Good luck on your choice.
I had a load of gluten brought in the other day for 2.50 a loaded mile. I wouldn't run my own truck for that. | | | | |
| | TTaylor
| Posted 1/1/2017 16:06 (#5736724 - in reply to #5735081)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Mccune KS | The way I see it. Like any thing else.
If your stuck in a crowd like a load board etc
it's probably not going to be pretty. But if you have done a spread sheet on your
real cost and know what is needed then you go from
there. Straight to tge point find a nich and sell
your self in tge fact you need to make a living
and your there to help above what is needed. If your hauling places that's info that is worth something.
Semtimes info worth more tgan buding
jauled. Stuck in line 8 hrs and you will hate trucking
unless you have cable tv and microwave etc. All in how it's done.
Oida use to have a good spread sheet
lastest one is crap.
Include paying tge truck(Dosent last forever)
$40 tablet then learn spread sheets. Know urrrrr cost Always from poor side of tracks etc | | | | |
| | kggonzo
| Posted 1/1/2017 21:12 (#5737420 - in reply to #5737384)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | Northeast Nebraska and Candelaria Philippines | Buy a new $50,000 triple axle trailer. They hold there value about as good as gold. Truck repairs are costly if you hire it done. Buy as new as truck as you can. I'd say some people can't make any money with hoppers, and the next person gets rich. | | | | |
| | Lauritsenag
| Posted 1/1/2017 22:24 (#5737589 - in reply to #5737420)
Subject: RE: Grain Hauling | | | | | Lots of advice! Here's my two cents worth, IF you love to drive and can do your own maintenance you can make a decent wage. If you haul for the coops here (sw IA) most coops pay around $.07 per bushel to the ethanol plants. Usually an hour and half round trip. If your truck is payed for, fuel prices locked in, low maintenance costs you can make decent money. the problem we have is the ethanol plants are getting to 10plus yrs old, so they seem to have numerous brakedowns which means waiting in line for a pit to get running. Iv'e never figured my cost per mile on my own truck, butting waiting in line costs you money and time. I wish I cud hire a decent truck driver for the fall,I'd much rather be in the combine! But finding someone who doesn't ramrod,overload and keeps stuff clean is about impossible. ( hell, I wanted to kick my brother out of the combine, because he won't keep the cab and windows clean. Anybody else feel this way? There was a posting on machinery pete about the guy in Kansas that uses a toothbrush to clean his cab. Well I do also, and q-tips. LOL | | | | |
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